At what point is abortion no longer - or even - acceptable? Fresh fom Reddit

I saw another abortion dilemma on here and every single response was so closed minded -- as a preface I am not a red pill fanatic, I am not a feminist, I'm just curious for truth. Third trimester abortion is legal in places, I don't know where, I just know yet don't plan on googling it. All questions I pose will assume third trimester unless stated otherwise. Anyways so my question is asking when is abortion no longer acceptable?

All the responses I've seen so far state that it is a decision that can only be made by the mother to kill her fetus - pay attention to my terms. Ok... So the father has no say? Or to extend that the fetus has no say?

Here's another question, what's the difference between a 36 week fetus and a 3 hour old infant? The only difference I see is the physical separation of mother and child, no significant mental changes have occurred. When does the fetus become a human; because apparently murder of a human is illegal, but not of a fetus. And please define what you mean by human when answering. Again this can also be extended, if you say a fetus is inhuman and a newborn is human, then you have no idea of the definition of the word. I'm being hypocritical in not defining human, but then some would have a slight bias towards their definition - screw I'm asking the question, not you...

But should a human be a self-sustaining creature, physical independent of other organic beings... Then shouldn't a newborn also be considered not human? Babies depend on their mothers and fathers for literally everything other than air. The point at which a baby can provide for itself is the point at which it becomes a human? Now that's a weak question, but it'll get you thinking about when a person truly becomes a person. Is it when we can drive? When we are eligible to enlist? When we get franchise? A job? We, as a race, set limits on ourselves to protect from the harm of others and ourself. However these limits deprive us of things that others take for granted.

I know it's a big read, it's 1:43 AM and I can't sleep and had some philosophy running around my head. If anything needs clarification, I'll try and clear it up.

Submitted January 11, 2015 at 01:45AM by IamTarTar http://ift.tt/1DxjgtY